In this live episode, Chris Mallard argues that atheists do not need to disprove God, because the burden of proof sits with the person making the claim. He also takes on objective morality, the commandments that follow the Ten in Exodus, atonement as human sacrifice, and the claim that Jesus was king.
Can you prove that God doesn’t exist?
Chris argues you cannot prove that something does not exist, so the real work is testing the claims believers make. He compares God to a magical goblin in his kitchen, an unfalsifiable statement that is not true just because someone asserts it. He says the person claiming a God exists must show it, and he applies the same logic when a chat viewer demands proof that Zeus does not exist. He adds that atheists simply do not believe in God, and other labels are optional.
Where do atheists get their morals?
Chris says his morals came from his parents and the society that raised him, and that they vary from place to place, which makes them subjective. He says that had he been born in Aztec Mexico in the 1200s, he would have held a different moral set. He argues that if one pure objective moral source existed, people everywhere would have found it, the way different countries independently found that two plus two is four.
Do the Ten Commandments stop at ten in Exodus 20?
Chris tells viewers the commandments do not stop at ten. He says the text continues into Exodus 21 and 22, where a male Hebrew slave goes free after seven years but a daughter sold as a slave does not, and where it says not to suffer a witch to live and to kill anyone who has sexual relations with an animal. He also points to a passage on sacrificing the firstborn son with no redemption clause, noting that Exodus 34 does include one. He uses this to challenge Christians who want the commandments in schools.
Is Christian atonement a form of human sacrifice?
Chris asks whether it is moral to clean up your own wrongdoing by hurting something innocent. He describes a progression from goat to calf to a man as human sacrifice, which believers would call abhorrent anywhere else, and he calls the washed in the blood idea a blood cult. He also says Jesus in Matthew states that he and his angels will burn the wicked in furnaces, and he asks whether that is moral.
Was Jesus ever actually a king?
Chris argues Jesus was never king, because he had no lands, throne, army or taxes. He says claiming kingship after death means nothing, comparing it to Quetzalcoatl being said to become an emperor after he died. He adds that in John chapter six people tried to make Jesus king and he ran away because he did not want to be one.
Transcript highlights
Selected passages from the live stream, lightly edited for readability. Click a section time to jump to that part of the video.
Stream Tools and Mod Panel Testing
Chris Mallard opens with greetings, mentions an upcoming evening show, and says he is testing new stream features. He demonstrates a unified chat that shows viewers from multiple platforms, and he sets up a special access link so a moderator can reach the mod dashboard. He also tests a YouTube review tool that lets a host paste a video link, play or pause it, and draw on the screen. The section contains no discussion of the Bible, God, or atheist arguments, only technical setup and housekeeping.
Proving Claims About a God Doesn’t Exist
Okay, so the show today is “Your God Doesn’t Exist.” As we’ve been over before, it’s not so much about the god itself. We’ve seen people come in and say, prove God doesn’t exist, and you just really can’t prove that something doesn’t exist, you know. What you do is work on the claims. They make the claim that it’s da da da da, and you go, well, can you prove that?
That’s not what I meant with my example. I have a magical goblin in my kitchen. It’s an unfalsifiable statement. You can’t prove that there isn’t one, but just because I claim there is one doesn’t mean it’s true, right? You guys see what I mean?
I saw somebody earlier say Jesus is king, and I just want to point out he was never king. Never once was Jesus king. He had no lands. He held no throne. He never waged a war, never raised an army, never raised taxes, none of those things. He never sat on a throne. Saying “I will be king after I die” means nothing. Quetzalcoatl was said to become an emperor after he died, and an emperor is bigger than a king, so is Quetzalcoatl right? It’s just stupid to say that after you die.
Did you know that in John chapter six, they tried to make him a king, and he literally ran away because he didn’t want to be king? But if later Paul, who never met Jesus, says Jesus is going to be a captain, you do, right? But again, Jesus was never king. He was never king.
Morality, Resurrection, and Numbers 31 Debate
There’s nobody looking over my shoulder all the time making an accounting of me, none of that business. No, no, I’m okay now. I do have morals because I was raised in a society that taught me right from wrong and good from bad. Indeed, that does vary from place to place. It is subjective, as it were.
So who has peace, me or you? You’re afraid for yourself, or you’re afraid for him, or your family. Do you have a gay brother? Do you worry all the time that he’s going to burn in hell?
If I were born in the 1200s in Aztec Mexico, I would have a different moral set, because I would have been raised in a different society. You’d think that if there were a single objective source, true and pure, everybody across the world throughout time would have found it, like math. Two plus two is four over there, over there, and over there. Countries and peoples all over the world figured that out on their own, because it’s so universal and true. But your god’s objective voice isn’t there, is it?
And if your god was objectively moral, all your people would have the same morals, wouldn’t they? They’d be getting it from the same pure and true
Atonement, Human Sacrifice, and Where Morality Comes From
Is it moral for you to have done a bad thing, and then in order to be morally clean again, you have to go hurt something else? You have to go hurt something else, and the more immoral you have been, the more innocent that thing has to be. Does that make sense to you? Is that moral by you? So you’re saying somebody went and got somebody else who had done nothing wrong and hurt them in your defense. That’s moral by you? You think that’s moral, to hurt somebody else to get rid of your sins?
Even if we take something like this: you have done something wrong, maybe you cheated on your wife, and now in order for you to be okay with God, you have to go kill a goat and spread its blood upon the altar. This is the same God we’re talking about. So in order to stop that from happening, they stepped it up from being a goat to a calf, and then from a calf to being a man. You don’t see how disgusting this is? They literally sacrificed a man. This is a human sacrifice. You don’t see that at all? Something you would see as abhorrent if you saw it anywhere else. You’d be like, oh my god, that’s a human sacrifice. They’re fixing to throw that woman into that volcano. What are they doing? We can’t have that anywhere else, except for your God. It’s a human sacrifice even according to you, and you’re not disgusted by it. You think that’s moral.
There are those of you out there who come in here and say things like, it’s not fair that atheists go through life doing harm and then die and never have to pay for those sins. Yet you believe that you can go through life doing all the sins and all the harm, just like everybody else does, and then get to the end because you’ve accepted Jesus Christ, and you don’t have to pay. How is that fair? You say it’s not fair for the atheist, but it’s fair for you. The only thing is that you have to believe in imported property, where we don’t believe in it. So just because of that, you get into heaven and don’t have to pay for all those sins you’ve committed, yet we do. If God is not real and everybody just dies and blinks out of existence, and you’re like, that’s unfair, they don’t pay the price for their sins. There must be some real judgment afterwards. Unless, of course, you believe in the afterlife, and then you don’t have to pay afterwards, right? That’s moral by you. Is sacrificing children moral by you?
Where do atheists get their morals from? That’s one of the telling questions. Where do you get your morals? My mommy and daddy taught me not to do bad things, whether I follow those or not, and that’s up to me. But society taught me not to do bad things, based on what my society taught me was right. If I was born 800 years ago, rolling people’s heads off a pyramid may have been morally acceptable to me, if I had been raised in that environment from childhood. There is no pure source of moral objectivity. If there were, the Indians on this side of the world, the Native Americans on that side, and all the people everywhere would have seen this same singular message. But they didn’t, at any point, ever did they?
Hello, dark side of the force. Prayers are like talking to yourself. Well, it depends on what you get out of it. Billy, I think James is on our side here. I could be wrong, James. Many people have come through. Bear with us.
I’m not pro Islam. I’m against Islam because Islam is oppressive, like Christianity. It’s not right, and it’s not here in my business right now, forcing my wives and my daughters to wear hijabs. It’s not here. But right now in the United States, women are dying in hospital waiting rooms because they can’t get abortions because of Christians. Texas withheld the numbers on how many women had died since their laws took effect, and they’re going to release that information after the election. Go look it up for yourself. Don’t trust me, I’m just somebody on the internet. Hijab laws are coming to Michigan. Ten Commandments laws have passed in Texas and Oklahoma. In Texas, children of all ages are going to have to read scriptures daily. They haven’t enacted it yet, but they’ve already voted and approved it. If it weren’t for the blue wave overthrowing them, they would be forcing children to read scriptures. If it weren’t for us and the liberals on the left, you guys would be forcing your stuff on everybody.
It’s funny how Christians will say, oh my goodness, you’re not going to allow me to oppress those gay people, I’m so oppressed. We’re infringing upon your religious rights if we let gay people get married, somehow. Fascinating, and by fascinating I mean just ignorant. But anyway, if you’ve been watching this show for a while, you may have noticed that recently I just let the reins go and stopped giving a damn about this show. I’m not saying I don’t care about the show and the people. I’m saying, being the guy here talking, I’m just over it now.
Part 5
Ask Kelly Laughlin, I’m over it So, yeah a little less I Guess you would say give a fuck maybe But says okay because we’ve got lots of good people in our community who do give a fuck and they’re willing to come in here And talk to people and debate people so tonight At 9 o ‘clock, we will have misbehaved and that will be miss not sequitur and Jada guest a new person on the show They will be here Running the shot Colin I believe and Answering taking calls and doing stuff tomorrow. Kelly Laughlin will be here and possibly even fro a new also a new trainee We’re gonna call him trainees. No offense to anybody.
It’s wonderful If you’re training because there’s a system you got to learn right? I heard it. I heard it and I’m paying attention. Let me look Plug the store. Oh, hey, did it really just tell me what to do it did Yes a producer Don’t forget to pick up your ear merch So Really on any other show they have these people who got well real shows they go Hey, man, you got to do this at this time and this at this time and this run this commercial at this time I mean, I know I just never do it. Why does the show may not make any money because I never be those things So I’m
building the producer to remind people. Hey, man, go do this thing I don’t know if you know this or not, but you really can buy a Goat scented flesh candle It’s not scented like a goat flesh burning kind of situation They wouldn’t do that and it doesn’t have the the wick does not make a goat screaming sound when you burn it yet We’re working on that but coming soon and I didn’t forget. I know about the song. I didn’t forget I just got to do to go since the flesh candles though. Where is it? It’s one of my favorite ones I was my favorite go sent it flesh candles boom and Boom see boom is
less less good. If you don’t boom when I take all right, we’re back Marxism is not communism, but that’s a whole different conversation for like a fourth -grade Teacher you might need to have anyway. Well, let’s go here social studies Good morning. I’m being a jerk. Good morning. Um, however, how you guys doing? I want to mention let me see if this is gonna work here Yeah, so hey Billy if you’re in the chat there would you click on on that what’s called the mod tools chat Click and just let me see if you can highlight a chat if you’ll click it so it’ll show up on the screen so I can See it’s we’re
testing a new system here and we have mods a room specifically for mods where they can do special powers that they can’t Do just watch anything. Also, I was gonna mention earlier. We’re gonna have a delay system where If somebody says a bad word or shows their dick on the show or something like that we can actually bleep it out and The mods will see the instant show on their thing and then there’ll be a delay before it actually goes out on the stream So, you know, we’re getting bigs Did it did it work? I didn’t notice if it worked. I was talking I just want to see if your thing works whenever you click
something. Oh This is where Yeah over here whenever you’re in the mod chat, there’s the mod tools on the right side of the page That’s where it’s supposed to start out. Anyway, it’s where you see the you know, a streamer chat I think it may have whatever. Yeah, yeah mod chat mod tools chat If you just click anybody’s name over there, it should pop it up on the screen thus I’m gonna make it look more prettier, but If you see if you see So and it may not let people do that. I don’t know. We’ll see That’s supposed to There goes. Look at you. Hey, Kelly. Laughlin has Greg James and SR lined up really
Chris on AI, the Show Lineup and Paul
I’m torn. I generate almost all of it here myself. I’ve got a computer here, I generate my own videos, and I’ve got LLMs built on here, even some of my own. I’m working on it, and it interacts with me. It’s a producer that runs behind my shoulder. It’s like, hey man, don’t forget to run a commercial. Hey man, don’t forget to do this. It does that sort of thing.
I’m one of those guys who says everybody should embrace AI, because you don’t want to be the guy stuck using a beeper when everybody’s on a smartphone. Yeah, I guess I feel that way in a way. But then I open my internet and I see a guy who makes parody commercials, and I use AI all the time. I open Facebook or whatever and I see some medical institution using AI doctors, not real doctors, to say this medicine is the best. That’s not right. Maybe I’ll just get used to it. I don’t know. I have a hard time with it myself. I’m still on the fence. It’s got its purposes, and I’ve got to be honest, it does a lot of things for me right now.
I’m also part of the actor community. I’m an actor, I’ve got a credit on IMDb if you ever get around to it, and I do theater. I feel for actors, man. I don’t
Atheist Worldviews, Proof, and Misled Christians
A viewer asked which atheistic worldview the host adheres to, and he answered, “Pick one, whichever one you like. I don’t care, just whichever one.” When pressed to list the options, he asked, “Can you list them for me? Give me some options.” He then said he doesn’t believe in God, and that beyond that, people can pick whichever label they want. A viewer offered “strict materialism,” and he replied, “You’d be a naturalist, and here’s to strict materialism.”
He explained that atheists don’t spend much time on those labels. “We don’t really care about it either. We just don’t believe in God, period. Full stop.” He added, “Some atheists are spiritual and believe in an afterlife of some kind, or spirits and ghosts. I don’t know. We just don’t believe in your God creature. That’s the only association we all have together.”
He compared the question to asking someone to explain the differences between Episcopalians and Southern Baptists, then said, “If you’re looking for a serious answer, I guess probably not. It doesn’t seem like a terribly serious question.”
He also talked about making a Christmas video. “I’m hoping to get a new one made by Christmas, but I’ve just been so busy, and I’m such a slacker when it comes to doing things like that. I would really prefer to do it without AI. I would see if I could encourage some other people, like Seth Andrews or the other people mentioned in the show, to send me some green screen work so I could put it all together.”
He described a system he is testing that would analyze each show and produce a promo. “After individual shows, it’ll take and analyze the show and then create me promo videos. Here’s a promo spot, a 15-second spot, created automatically after a show, with its own voice. So that we can rotate these in with commercials and have them do stuff like that.” He said he was doing it for fun and testing new things.
When a viewer asked about proof, he said, “What’s my proof of what? That God doesn’t exist. I don’t need proof. You have to prove God exists, that’s how that works. You make the claim that you have a God, and we’re saying it doesn’t exist, so you have to show us that it exists. The ball’s in your court.” He added, “Belief and proof are different things. They’re not the same thing, but they are related.”
Responding to another viewer, he said, “Maybe it’s what your questions sound like. They sound like apologist rhetoric, because they’re not really based in reality. Maybe you’re asking the wrong group. Maybe the questions aren’t valid, just a different group of folk perhaps.” He also suggested that some of the angry messages in the chat came from people who had been hurt by the church. “Somebody sounds like they were hurt by the church.”
Asked whether the stream aims to disprove God or seek truth, he said, “Well, here’s the deal. You can’t disprove God. You can’t disprove something that doesn’t exist. So I’m not trying to disprove your God, and I’m not trying to seek answers and truth. I’m trying to give you answers and truth. That’s what I’m here for.”
Finally, he told Christians watching that they had been misled. “You have been misled if you’re a Christian and you’re watching this. You’ve been lied to. You can go to a site called Destroying Christianity, and there you will
Part 8
Every description of God by anybody who’s seen it or gotten near it is always described as being horrific They were terrified whenever just just go read. That’s chapter 1 And then it talks about the sacrifice. It shows you how Jesus was not sacrificed. It was not a sacrifice at all Not at all not a sacrifice and then it shows you how your religion is actually a blood cult Did you know your religion is a blood cult washed in the blood Jesus You are clean aren’t you you have been washed clean with the blood of Jesus haven’t you so your religion is a blood cult You knew that right? fascinating and there’s more much much more
things like and this is one of my new favorites on the show is like Did you know that in your commandments the same commandments that you want to put in schools? It tells you to murder people it tells you to kill people it tells you to how to manage your slaves It tells you to sacrifice children in your commandments It does the very commandments that you Christians want to put in schools. It does Not in those first ten, but you don’t know you don’t know do you that it doesn’t stop at ten? That’s the deal. I’m here to show you things like that that it doesn’t stop at ten go read Exodus 20 there You’ll
find it the Commandments the ones you know the ten commandments Who doesn’t call them the ten commandments? That’s a different chapter Exodus 34 But in Exodus 20 it calls them the commandments The they go ten and then the God creature gets afraid and backs away from the mountain I’m sorry It goes to ten and then the people are afraid of the God’s voice go read Exodus 20 God lists out those first ten that people get afraid and back away from the mountain God goes on He tells Moses tell the people this and he goes on with the rest of the commandments Exodus 21 the very first one is telling you that a male slave should
go free after seven years only if it’s a Hebrew slave Right, if you sell your daughter as a slave, she doesn’t get to go free same commandments They don’t stop at ten. Nowhere doesn’t say it stops at ten. Nowhere Nowhere does it say it stops at ten and so like number 16 is you if you sell your daughter as a slave She shall not go free after seven years like the men do the next chapter Exodus 22 because it goes on right Exodus 21 Exodus 20 21 and 22 in Exodus 22 It tells you thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. That’s in your commandments Right underneath that it says thou shalt if you
if someone sleeps with an animal has sexual relations with an animal You are to kill them Sorry, Matthew Danavacano Rules are rules nobody and then just down the page Underneath those two it tells you That you are supposed to sacrifice your firstborn son to God creature with no redemption clause There’s no redemption clause. Nowhere under that does it say you can redeem your son It does in the other ten commitments Because in the other ten commitments where it does say these are the ones to write down on tablets and then down in the Middle of the chapter it says these are the ten commandments in that set of commandments It also tells you to sacrifice
your children your firstborn son But in that one, it gives you a redemption clause It does don’t you you may redeem your sons. It tells you in Exodus 34 you can in Exodus 20 no redemption clause Exodus 22, I’m sorry Exodus 22 So your commandments the ten commandments the ones you call the ten commandments just drop the word ten off of there Because God never said ten commandments not in this one. He did it in the other one Exodus 34, but not in this one From God’s mouth. It tells you don’t murder what what what is that commandment number six? Commandment number 34 is to kill any witch anybody That’s a witch commandment number 35
Commandments, Furnaces and the Burden of Proof
The same commandments they want to put in our schools are the same commandments that call for the murder of children. You don’t have to defend that anymore. You want to run away from that anymore? You want to go through that? Huh? Interesting.
Someone in the chat said to prove Zeus doesn’t exist. This is exactly the kind of person I’m talking about. You should actually try to prove that God does exist, because that’s where you have to start. You make the claim that there’s a God, so you prove it exists.
We have the Theocracy Watch, which might be interesting to some of these individuals in the chat. It’s a weekly newsletter that points out where Christian nationalists or Christians are forcing their religion or making moves to gain power in our political system, our school boards, or any of that business. There’s a heat map on the website, and you can click on the states and see where they’re forcing their religious nonsense on other people. It’s updated regularly, and I need to update it more.
The Millstone is also a weekly newsletter. It reports on sexual assaults by members of the church, any church in the United States and sometimes outside the United States, and on the cover-up of those assaults. It’s not just about the assault itself, and it’s not just about children. It’s also about the cover-up, about paying off the victims. This week, in Maine, they had to pay two million dollars for this, and in Oregon they’ve hired lawyers in their fight, whatever it is. The newsletter gives you a report of where that’s happening, and you can look at the heat map and see your own state.
Jesus himself says in Matthew that when he comes back, he and his angels are going to murder everyone who’s not righteous. That means all the atheist children, because you can see from the Old Testament that God does not spare the children. Jesus says it twice in the same chapter, and in all three synoptic Gospels, by the way, he says that when he and his angels return, they’re going to burn all the wicked in furnaces. That’s like Hitler, right?
Your Jesus, out of his own mouth, said he’s going to commit atrocities against the wicked. So who are the wicked? What does it take to be wicked to somebody who doesn’t believe in Jesus? That’s all it takes. Is that moral to you? Can’t you stop and go, oh shit, this belief system is not worth me? Can you do that? I think some of you can.
Someone asked what an atheist future could look like. I think Star Trek would be the best way to go. Doesn’t it feel like the left wants Star Trek? Progressives want Star Trek, and conservatives want Mad Max. I’m sure of it.
I’m still waiting for peer-reviewed scientific evidence and consensus establishing physicalism as fact, not merely supporting it as a philosophical position. I have a headache, so maybe the jerk in me is coming out a little early. Pardon me if I presume, but let me see your user history. Okay, apparently that’s something you care about more than we do.
I think it’s funny that atheists get asked, why do you care about God if you don’t think he exists? Then I show you where you’re forcing your bullshit on other people, and it doesn’t really work the same way in reverse. Some of these people will challenge you on why you don’t believe, and they’ll go on about something else entirely. That’s the pattern I keep seeing.
I’m off to say the word, my brain hurts. I’m going to go get something to eat, maybe that’ll help. I’ll see you guys tomorrow, and I may sit in the chat with Kelly and hang out. Kelly may have a guest, and Kelly can run everything, the way they did last Wednesday on Ch
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